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studio hi hi hi how you there hi Hi. Hi. Hey, Nora. I'm Nora McInerney, and this is thanks for asking, a call-in you for being here this morning.

Thank you for having me.

We are going to talk about a topic that nobody has any feelings about, is not a lightning

rod in any way, and contains no controversy in it, which is why I picked

you. Yeah, I almost backed out. It's too hard to talk about motherhood on the internet publicly.

I can't think of a worst topic on earth because, and I've experienced this too.

I've experienced it on both sides, both sides, both sides.

I've experienced like the feeling of somebody saying something about motherhood that does not reflect my experience and me feeling as though it's an attack on a choice I made. And I've also experienced a feeling of

simply just saying what my experience is and having someone else be like, no, no, no,

because for me, for me, it feels like this. So work and motherhood, double lightning rod,

attracting all of the lightning. I was asked, asked these two questions. And I said, I'm going to table these. These are not for an Instagram

story. I got a, I got a phone a friend and that friend is Kate Kennedy. Well, I'm honored,

first of all. It's like I have a lot of strong feelings, but I also will kind of

cancel them out in terms of their validity because my situation is so specific. But I actually

think that's why we get so lit up is because our situations are so specific, yet we're made to feel like we should have

ambiguous feelings or unambiguous feelings about motherhood. You know what I mean? Yeah. And our

situations are so specific and then they change so quickly. I don't know if you've experienced that

yet. Teddy's a little over two, right? And yes.

Things change so quickly that I will feel like I have everything in control and I'm doing absolutely everything right.

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