We'll have you Thanksgiving every one this episode releases on the evening of the holiday and

we pray that your day has been full of gratitude for God's kindness and Pastor John, as we

look forward now to another weekend, today's timely question is about corporate worship.

It's from a listener named Scott, dear Pastor John and Tony, thank you for this podcast.

On this show of her, do you say that no one can truly worship God without enjoying him?

It's been a big indictment to me for the many occasions in church when I have participated

in the service without any feelings of joy in God for who he is.

So my question is, should we still try to worship God even when we aren't enjoying him?

Or should we wait for the enjoyment to come first, seeking it out prior to the beginning of our

musical worship? I have a feeling you're going to say that we should go ahead and try and pray

for enjoyment. So then can we work back from an action to a state of heart? That is, can going

through the motions of worship, producing us the sort of heart that would bring forth

that same worship spontaneously, Pastor John, what would you say to Scott?

The short answer to that last question is yes. You can't work backward like that.

That is possible if, if, if, if done in the right way. And before I try to sum up what that

right way is, let me point Scott to pages 96 and 97 of the book Desiring God because that's

where I pose this very question and give it the best answer I know how. So pages 96 and 97,

I think it's the most recent edition of Desiring God. In that section, I actually use the moment of

worship and the act of our giving a tithe in that moment as an act of worship. When I don't feel

like it, should I give a tithe when I don't feel like it as the war, you know, the play is coming

down the aisle and I have to choose whether to do that act of of worship because I ought to and I

don't feel like it or not. But instead of just rehearsing what I wrote on those pages, which seems

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