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Coffee House Shots

Should he stay, or should he go? | with Maurice Glasman

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Daily News, Politics

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🗓️ 9 May 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

As the full picture of the local elections emerges, Labour faces a dilemma: stick with Keir Starmer, or put forward an alternative.

Calls for Starmer to resign have intensified, and we are braced for MPs to stick their heads above the parapet this weekend. The message from the Prime Minister is that he ‘will not go’ and will not set out a path for his resignation either.

So where does Labour go from here? Lord Glasman joins Tim and James to discuss the battle for the soul of the Labour party. Should they return to their traditions, or continue to ‘limp along in a state of paralysis’?

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now has dollops of teal, green, orange and yellow splashed across its face. And Wales, a new nationalist

1:00.6

first minister now looms. In Scotland, an old nationalist returns to Butte House. So, should

1:06.1

he stay or should he go? Tony Benn said that politics was about issues, not personality. But what is

1:11.6

Kea Stama future looking like in light of these results? Discussed as I'm joined now by Lord

1:16.0

Glasman and Tim Shipman. First of all, Morris, what is Kea Stammer's future? Well, it's very much like

1:22.1

his past, confused, limping along, incapable of understanding the world around him. But I don't think in

1:29.9

that he's very much different to the contenders. I mean, this is a perfect moment for the

1:34.9

labour tradition, sovereignty, nationalisation, different economic models, strong state,

1:41.1

working class. But they've become utterly colonized, certainly, since the Blair

1:45.7

years by middle class progressives.

1:48.0

And as I always say, it's the last thing you want to hear when you go to the doctor, it's

1:52.1

progressive.

1:53.7

It's a form of death.

1:55.2

It weakens your mind, it weakens your body, and you can't act.

1:59.3

So what I foresee is this interregnum, this paralysis, limping on all through the summer.

2:08.1

But if you look at Andy Burnham and you look at Angela Rainer or you look at West

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