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Radical with Amol Rajan

Should Former Colonial Powers Pay Reparations? (Your Radical Questions with Simukai Chigudu)

Radical with Amol Rajan

BBC

Society & Culture

4.5919 Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2026

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Simukai Chigudu, author of ‘Chasing Freedom: Coming of Age at the End of Empire’ and associate professor of African politics at Oxford University, answers your questions about statues, reparations for slavery and decolonising the curriculum.

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Amol Rajan is a presenter of the Today programme on BBC Radio 4. He is also the host of University Challenge on BBC One. Before that, Amol was media editor at the BBC and editor at The Independent.

Radical with Amol Rajan is a Today Podcast. It was made by Lewis Vickers with Anna Budd and Cordelia Hemming. Digital production was by Gabriel Purcell-Davis. Technical production was by Philip Bull. The editor is Sam Bonham. The executive producer is Owenna Griffiths.

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.

0:05.7

Hello and welcome to your radical questions.

0:08.4

This is where I put your questions to one of our magnificent radical guests, erudite, thoughtful, influential,

0:14.8

and often have written very powerful and important books which you should read.

0:18.3

This is your chance to engage very directly with a very smart, very interesting people that we have on this podcast and ask them about their ideas for the future. My guest today, who I'm sure you would have heard and enjoyed on Thursday's episode is Professor. No, are you a doctor professor? What do I call you? Just Simukai. You call me Siwukai. Both titles work, but you're, I'm actually a double doctor. Double doctor? Oh my God. Okay. Right. Full,

0:42.0

I'm married to an academic. I know how this going. My guest today is the double doctor Simukai

0:46.6

Chagoodoo, an associate professor of African politics at Oxford University and a founding

0:51.4

member of the Rhodes Must Fall campaign, the movement pushing

0:54.8

to decolonise the university and remove the Statue of Cecil Rhodes at Oriel College. But as we discussed on Thursday's episode, and I implore you to go back and listen to it, it's a little bit more complicated than that. It's not a case of just tearing things down. It's about actually, in a weird sort of way, building things up like our knowledge. Anyway, his new book weaves together, his experience growing up in post-independent

1:14.1

Zimbabwe as part of the born free generation with a wider look at how British influence

1:18.6

still shapes that country. It blends personal and political history to offer a very fresh

1:23.7

perspective on race, class identity and the ongoing legacy of colonialism around the

1:28.8

world. It's called chasing freedom coming of age at the end of empire. And if you want to know

1:33.5

whether or not you found that freedom, you'll have to listen to Thursday's episode. But this is a

1:37.0

good place to start. Right, Simukai, double doctor. Are you feeling ready? I am. Okay, be radical.

1:41.7

Here we go. This is our first question from Mike in Belgium.

1:45.8

Amel reference Cecil Rhodes. The scholarship that's available to students, as I understand it, worldwide has benefited many.

1:55.4

Yes, he has a history. But that history, which can be read and researched online or otherwise should be published

2:06.0

all of it warts and all so people can see exactly who he was and what he did but i don't think that

2:13.2

is a reason for removing the statue, hiding things away.

2:18.8

Better to get things out in the open.

2:20.8

So it's clear and obvious who this man was and what he did and why.

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