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Welcome to the Quillette podcast, hosted on alternate weeks by me, Jonathan Kay, and by Iona Italia.

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today is the philosopher Holly Lawford-Smith. I talk to Holly about her new book, Feminism Beyond Left and

Right, in which she explores questions of what it means to form political allegiances

and how to counter those who want to police feminism. I hope you enjoy my conversation with

Holly Lawfittsmith.

So you're talking about the beginnings of identity politics and the early, I guess this is second,

I'm not sure which wave of feminism it is, maybe second wave feminism.

And the idea of consciousness raising groups in the women's liberation movement.

So I think this is in the 60s, 70s.

Yep.

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