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Should Everyone Quit Using Gendered Pronouns?

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2019

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Why not go by they/them? Would a gender-neutral world be better? And what would it look like? Guest: Farhad Manjoo, New York Times op-ed columnist. Read their latest, “Call Me ‘They.’” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Have you ever misgendered someone that had a whole conversation where you thought, oh,

0:09.7

he was nice.

0:11.2

And then maybe you say that out loud.

0:13.9

And then you get that sinking feeling.

0:16.4

This happened to me a few weeks back, with a guest on this show, Farhad Manjoo.

0:23.6

The last time you were on, I remember I went to your Twitter bio to like maybe retweet

0:29.0

something you had done, you had said.

0:32.1

And I looked at your Twitter bio and I thought, oh, no.

0:37.0

Yeah.

0:38.0

Right at the top of Farhad's Twitter bio was a simple note.

0:43.5

They slash them.

0:46.3

And I sent it to my producer and I was just like, did we mess up here?

0:51.9

And basically, I guess you could say you kind of messed up because you just didn't ask.

0:56.8

So I messaged Farhad.

0:58.5

I said, hey, I think we misgendered you here.

1:00.4

I'm so sorry.

1:02.2

And even as I wrote this, I was like, did I miss a memo here?

1:06.6

Farhad's a columnist for The New York Times.

1:09.1

Probably the first one to go by they them pronouns.

1:12.0

I shouldn't have known about this.

1:14.1

It turns out Farhad had a plan.

1:17.0

Last week in a column titled Call Me They, Farhad officially unveiled their new pronouns.

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