Should Democrats Close the Southern Border?
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Thom Hartmann
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🗓️ 27 December 2023
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Immigration is likely to be the top issue in the next election. Thom asks- should Democrats get out in front of it by taking the deal Republicans are offering to shut down migration in exchange for funding the defense of democracy in Ukraine? An intense hour of conversation with Thom's callers follows.
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| 0:00.0 | This is the Tom Hartman program. |
| 0:15.0 | We got a lot to talk about the nation. |
| 0:17.0 | Democrats trade the southern border for Ukraine and Israeli aid package. |
| 0:21.0 | And up until very recently, the Israeli aid package was also |
| 0:24.6 | quite popular and I think still is at least among Republicans. And the |
| 0:29.4 | Republicans thinking that they can blow up Ukraine aid and do what Trump wants have said |
| 0:35.2 | yeah sure we'll consider the Ukraine as part of a package that includes dealing |
| 0:39.8 | with our southern border. We want the Biden administration to seal southern border. |
| 0:43.0 | We want the Biden administration to seal a border, stop accepting immigrants, declare an |
| 0:48.2 | emergency, whatever you have to do, use Trump-era policies, whatever. |
| 0:53.0 | We shut that sucker down and we will give you Ukraine and Israel. |
| 0:59.0 | Now, first of all, let's just be clear about what's going on on our southern border. |
| 1:06.0 | No Democrat has ever suggested that the southern border should be wide open. |
| 1:11.0 | Our first immigration law was passed in 1921, you know, |
| 1:15.1 | outside of the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1886, which is its own completely |
| 1:19.3 | separate story, but it didn't last. So 1921, we got the first immigration act and it limited |
| 1:24.8 | immigration in the United States to white people, essentially. It said that |
| 1:31.0 | people who were not white could come into the United States, but only in proportion to the non-white population of the United States. |
| 1:38.0 | And so in 1960, you had like about 13, as I recall, recall 13 14% of immigrants in the United States |
| 1:45.4 | were non white and everybody else is white people. I may be a little off on that |
| 1:49.4 | number it's in my article I don't I'm not scroll to that spot, but you could find it. But that changed by |
| 1:54.9 | 1965 because, you know, we changed the law in 65. So by 19, by the 1980s you were seeing, you know, |
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