Hey everyone. Welcome back to the Conversations that Matter podcast. I'm your

host John Harris as always and here with my good friend Joel Webbin we have been on

each other's podcast a number of times so I don't know that he needs much of an

introduction but he's a pastor he's an author he's a podcaster are you a

super intendant of a Christian school too is that one of the I'm on the

board Lord willing will be launching St. George Classical Academy in the fall of 2024. So I'm not the tip of the spear with that endeavor, but I'm involved and certainly see it as a commendable project.

Are you so that's St George as in St George and the Dragon?

Yeah exactly it's I mean there is a historical St George within you know Catholic

tradition but it's it's more of the Knights of the Red Cross, King Arthur,

that we're using the mythical St. George.

The whole idea is that he he goes up against this you know

juggernaut of a dragon and gets defeated and then you know but in God's

Providence he you know falls under this tree and that has a healing balm you know

kind of thing and is revived.

And then instead of just walking away with his life and saying, thank goodness, I'll never do that again,

he faces the dragon again, falls into a river that has healing properties and the dam's own distress is not just a dam zone

distress but she's praying for him you know it's very Christianized and it's her

prayers and God's Providence and nature and creation even the Cosmos

working with him and eventually basically

that you know he defeats the dragon but it's more than just that it's it's that the

dragon is terrorized because the dragon in his perception is I'm ten times the

size of this little puny night but this is the immortal night.

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