Let’s face it: talking about climate change can feel depressing and futile. It seems like every few years there’s a new dire report, another agreement signed, and little progress is made. This week’s guest, Dorothy Fortenberry, is a writer and executive producer of “Extrapolations,” a new show from Apple TV+ that aims to shake us from our complacency by showing us what the world might look like in 10, 20, 30 years if we stay on our current trajectory. We talk to her about getting people to care about climate change, her love of Pope Francis’ environmental encyclical “Laudato Si’” and the ethics of having kids in a climate crisis. In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley discuss a controversy between a group of Franciscans and Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, and talk about how Catholics should react to SatanCon, a gathering of members of the Satanic Temple in Boston next week. Links from the show: Military archdiocese: The end of Walter Reed’s pastoral care contract is ‘incomprehensible’ Boston 'SatanCon' prompts Catholics to respond with prayer and the Gospel Watch “Extrapolations” on Apple TV+ I was at the first Earth Day. And I carry what I learned about care for creation to this day by James Martin, S.J. This Earth Day, meet the artist making beautiful icons of God’s endangered creatures by Jim McDermott, S.J. What’s on tap? Micheladas Support Jesuitical! Become a digital subscriber to America Media! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices