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It is three minutes after 10.

You're listening to James O'Brien on LBC.

Do you ever have like a sort of blind spots, mental blockages? Well, you

always come back to the same thing and you can't remember it. There's a phrase, forgive me for this,

because you've heard this song a few times, but the tune hasn't changed. There's a phrase I came

across when I was researching fixed odds betting terminals or the so-called crack cocaine of gambling machines,

which I find an absolutely crucial guide or lens through which to view questions about the role

the state has in helping us help ourselves or helping us not harm ourselves.

So if you remember the towing and throwing of fixed odds betting terminal legislation was,

and I don't know if it's over yet, but the stories we heard about people whose entire lives

were destroyed by addiction to machines that I learned when researching them were designed with

incredible levels of engineering, mental and technological engineering, to know exactly where

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