You're not a journalist. What do you say you are?

I'm a commentator.

You're a commentator. And you interview who interests you. Yeah. This is a person who is grotesque. And in her grotesquery, to make up a word, she has dominated the headlines. She's become a huge figure, not just here, but all around the world, everyone knows who she is. I tell by Argentinian in-laws about, I'm interviewing Bonnie Blue, they know.

Those are the kinds of things that, aside from any kind of inadvertent activism in my

journalism, those are the things I enjoy. I like the Louis Theroux stuff. I've done 200

interviews now or so for heretics. a large percentage of them about immigration, another large

percentage of them about trance.

And day after day, after day, after day, I'm sure you must have some of that fatigue

of, yes, these are very important topics for me.

And they are topics that I go home and discuss with my wife and my family and my friends and if I'm off air with you we're going to have this conversation because that's

what's on our minds but what a relief to be able to interview someone about a culture war topic

that isn't those two things is that fair answer that's a totally fair answer by saying

it's a fair answer you are now siding aligning yourself with those of us who have

other on and getting in trouble I'm not going to align because I'm still going to push back. So what did you learn from her? I learned that I think she's a psychopath. Jesus. Yeah. Okay. And also she's someone with a very high opinion of herself, which is one of the signs of psychopathy.

Ironic, given her face lift, right?

Yes.

Well, no one knows her age. She says she's whatever age, you know. She says she's in her 20s. People think she's in her 40s. You know, I don't really care too much. I'm fascinated by psychopaths. again, not just Louis the Ruther, but the John Ronson stuff about psychopath spectrum.

These are things I never get to discuss on my show.

So to go face to face with So to go, are you a psychopath? Someone I interviewed years ago, who I don't believe is a psychopath, was Amanda Knox, the one accused of murdering the Italian woman in her. And I don't think she is a psychopath. But what a thrill it gave me as a journalist to sit in front of her and look eyes into eyes and go, are you a psychopath?

Is there anything behind your eyes?

I'm in my element doing those kinds of interviews.

So I learned I think she is one.

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