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My guest today is Catherine Frankie.

Catherine is the James L. Dore Professor of Law at Columbia University, where she also directs the Center for Gender and Sexuality Law, and is the faculty director of the Law, Rights, and Religion Project.

She's a member of the Executive Committee for the Institute for Research on Women, Gender, and Sexuality, and the Center for Palestine Studies.

She's among the nation's leading scholars writing on law, religion, and rights,

drawing from feminist, queer, and critical race theory.

Catherine and I met when we both participated in a panel discussion

on reparations last summer for Brick TV.

And that panel went pretty haywire for me, the audience, rather despised me.

And you can see that on YouTube if you type in Brick TV Reparations.

That's B-R-I-C-TV.

But Catherine and I had a good conversation backstage, which suggested to me that we could have a good

conversation in person. The book we discuss is called Repair, Redeeming the Promise of Abolition.

Catherine and I are on opposite sides of this issue. Listeners who have been following me for a while

will know that I oppose reparations, and I discussed this with Sam Harris in the first episode and testified before Congress to this effect.

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