Hey, everybody. So sparks were flying on X last week between Elon Musk and the MAGA base over H-1B visas.

The debate also divided Trump's officials. We had Elon and Vivek versus Stephen Miller and Steve

Bannon. Everyone seemed to be weighing in, really hot topic. We had people, even Bernie,

saying Bernie's right with his comments on the H-1B nightmare yesterday. So today, I'm filling in for

Tim. He's not here, but he will be here next week. We brought

in a panel of experts to go over everything H-1B. So we should probably just jump into the big

debate. So I'll go around the room and everybody can introduce yourself. David?

I'm David Beer, Director of Immigration Studies at the Cato Institute. The Cato Institute

is a nonpartisan public policy research organization in Washington, D.C. And for the last 40 years,

or almost 50 years now, we've been producing original research on immigration and many other topics.

And most of the people who work there are libertarians, including myself.

I'm Daniel D. Martino, and I'm a fellow at the Manhattan Institute focused on immigration.

And so I do research on that.

I'm finished on my PhD in economics at Columbia University.

And I run an organization called The Visident Project, where we sent immigrants who escape

tyrannical countries to speak at high schools, tell our stories and educate children here

about the really the amazing thing that America is and how blessed we are to live here.

And I'm Caroline Downey.

I'm a staff writer at National Review,

the flagship conservative magazine in America, influence still going strong. And we host a whole

number of op-eds and interesting scholarly articles and have for many decades on the immigration

issue from experts like Mark Corcorian at the Center for Immigration Studies,

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