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Shots Fired: Part 2

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4.644.5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2017

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

A couple years ago, Ben Montgomery, reporter at the Tampa Bay Times, started emailing every police station in Florida. He was asking for any documents created - from 2009 to 2014 - when an officer discharged his weapon in the line of duty. He ended up with a six foot tall stack of reports, pictures, and press clippings cataloging the death or injury of 828 people by Florida police.  In part 2 of Shots Fired, Jad and Robert talk to Ben about how communication breakdowns too often lead to violence and our reporter Matt Kielty sits with one man who found himself at the center of a police visit gone horribly wrong. Produced and reported by Matt Kielty. For the full presentation of Ben Montgomery's reporting please visit the Tampa Bay Times' 'Why Do Cops Shoot?" We can't recommend it highly enough.  Support Radiolab by becoming a member today at Radiolab.org/donate.

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0:00.0

Before we get going, just a quick warning, this podcast contains some descriptions of graphic violence and also some strong language.

0:11.0

Be warned.

0:13.6

Wait, you're listening.

0:14.7

Okay.

0:16.0

All right.

0:17.2

Okay.

0:18.6

All right.

0:20.3

You're listening to Radio Lab.

0:22.9

Radio Lab.

0:23.5

From W. N. Y.

0:25.5

C.

0:26.4

See?

0:26.7

Yeah.

0:30.8

Look, it's so it's hard to kill another human being anymore, right?

0:36.2

Our fangs have retreated. Our hands are weak. But as we've lost this ability to kill another human being anymore, right? Our fangs have retreated. Our hands are weak,

0:39.3

but as we've lost this ability to kill each other, we've gained an ability to read each other's

0:44.8

tone of voice and facial expression. And often what's missing in these interactions is

0:52.2

one side of that equation, whether it's the police not seeing somebody because they're running through an alley with their gun drawn and it's dark or shining a flashlight in someone's face where that person can't see the officer's expression.

1:09.2

There's some mask, there's some breakdown in that equation that makes, handicaps us from

1:16.2

a normal human interaction.

1:20.6

Hey, I'm Chad I boomrod.

1:22.2

I'm Robert Crillwich.

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