Before we begin today's episode of Australian true crime, I want to tell you about a new project

we've been working on behind the scenes. It's called She Matters. It's a new podcast from

award-winning journalist and femicide researcher Shirel Moody. Each week, Shirel speaks with

families of women and children killed in Australia, sharing who they were, the joy they brought,

and the love they left behind. She Matters isn't a true crime podcast. It's about lives lived, lives loved and lives

lost. She Matters is produced by Dashmade podcasts in association with bravecasting media.

She Matters is available wherever you get your podcasts.

We've witnessed two major murder trials in Victoria over the last couple of years.

For six weeks in May and June of 2024, the Supreme Court dealt with the deaths of the so-called

high country campers, and in the end, the Supreme Court dealt with the deaths of the so-called high country campers,

and in the end, the jury found former jet star pilot Greg Lynn guilty of murdering Carol Clay,

but they also found there was insufficient evidence to convict him of murdering her companion,

Russell Hill. Exactly a year later, in May 2025, the trial of Erin Patterson began.

I know we're all well aware of the outcome, but just in case you're listening to this

sometime in the very distant future, it was a mammoth 10-week trial, and Patterson

was convicted of murdering her parents-in-law, Don and Gail Patterson. she was also convicted of attempting to murder Heather's husband, Ian Wilkinson.

If you are listening in the future, you'll know the outcome of the appeals

that both Erin Patterson and Greg Lynn are launching as I record this.

All of this to say that I've had the opportunity to observe these trials in a way that I never

have before, and they've left me with questions.

Fortunately, we have a friend who is rather an expert in the workings of the Australian

Supreme Courts, and that is Justice Lex Lazzery.

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