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🗓️ 3 August 2025
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Conspiracy theories are reshaping Australian society, with some having devastating real-world consequences.
Drawing on years of investigative reporting, Ariel Bogle and Cam Wilson explore how online extremism takes hold, the uniquely Australian anxieties that fuel it, and how it's weaponised by powerful figures.
You can purchase your copy of Conspiracy Nation here.
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| 0:00.0 | Conspiracy Nation is a new book written by two of Australia's brightest young journalists, |
| 0:10.4 | Walkley Award winner Ariel Bogle from The Guardian and Cam Wilson from Crikey. |
| 0:16.0 | The book covers every nook and cranny of the conspiracy landscape as it pertains specifically to Australia. |
| 0:22.6 | And it turns out there are many more nooks than I for one realised. In fact, when I read the |
| 0:28.5 | title, I must admit I was a bit insulted. I mean, I know we dabble, but surely they can't be |
| 0:35.3 | referring to Australia as a conspiracy nation. |
| 0:39.2 | This is Australian true crime. |
| 0:41.4 | We acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which this podcast is created, |
| 0:45.9 | the Wurundri Woi Warrang people of the Kulin Nation. |
| 0:49.8 | And a warning, this episode of the podcast contains graphic descriptions of violence. |
| 0:59.2 | Hello, it's Ed Gamble here from the Off Menu podcast. |
| 1:01.8 | James Acre here from the Off Menu podcast. |
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