Before we begin today's episode of Australian true crime, I want to tell you about a new project

we've been working on behind the scenes. It's called She Matters. It's a new podcast from

award-winning journalist and femicide researcher Shirel Moody. Each week, Shirel speaks with

families of women and children killed in Australia, sharing who they were, the joy they brought,

and the love they left behind. She Matters isn't a true crime podcast. It's about lives lived, lives loved and lives

lost. She Matters is produced by Dashmade podcasts in association with bravecasting media.

She Matters is available wherever you get your podcasts.

This is part two of a special two-part series

with former New South Wales Police and AFP member Jason Semple.

This is Australian True Crime.

We acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which this podcast is created,

the Wurundri Woi Warang people of the Kulin Nation.

And a warning, this episode of the podcast contains graphic descriptions of violence.

Anywhere I went, someone would say, oh, you're that guy, or you know, or you're

Jay Semple, you know, oh, how you're going?

So it was like a, there was a lot of support that came with that.

There's also a lot of pressure and it just kept the spotlight which I was trying to sort of get away from.

Also, because your brother was a successful copper too, wasn't he?

So you kind of, yeah, when you showed up, you were his brother.

And then very quickly you became, he's that guy who got stabbed and the other guy didn't make it.

So I guess you must have been pretty intent on making your own mark that wasn't in your

brother's shadow, that wasn't with this negative incident.

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