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Hey and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh and there's Chuck Jerry's here Dave's here you know how Dave's here and this is short stuff.

That's right this is a shorty from Dave's still a contributor to HouseTopWorks.com which is great and this one everyone we want to issue a big trigger warning.

It is about the Aoki Gahara Forest in Japan. It has another name that people have called it the Suicide Forest and we're going to be talking about that in this episode.

And obviously that's a very touchy subject. We don't want anyone to be unnecessarily triggered by it so don't listen if it's not your jam and obviously if you have some deep-seated issues going on in your life and you've had these kinds of thoughts you should call 988 the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline.

Yeah good good cold Chuck. Good call.

That's right. So one of the other names for the Aoki Gahara Forest is the Jukai which means a sea of trees and it's because it's a huge swath of forest just in a uniformist forest.

Yeah that's that Flanks Mount Fuji has beautiful views of Mount Fuji. It's about a couple hours drive from Tokyo and I think it built up over like a lava flow that from an eruption in 866.

And one of the reasons that it's it's famous not just for its views of Mount Fuji but because like you said it's become to be known as the Suicide Forest because so many people travel to Aoki Gahara and never come out on purpose.

That's right. There are no statistics anymore and I think this is great that the government of Japan has stopped.

I don't know if they stopped counting but they at the very least stopped listing out statistics on the number of suicides there. I think they were they stopped that in sort of the mid-20 teens.

But needless to say it had happened a lot and so they said we're not going to you know publish these numbers anymore which is I think the right thing to do.

But where this all came from is sort of an interesting story because no one knows exactly what it is. We have some decent ideas.

It's probably from these two books that came along much later but for a while people said it might have been this practice from like when was this actually.

The show Kusin Butzu. Yeah I think I had a date on that. I don't know Chuck but it said that it's been going on for at least a thousand years or that it went on for a thousand years. So it went back quite quite a while.

Yeah but what we're talking about is a certain sect of Buddhist monks, a schedic Buddhist monks who would go to forests to meditate eventually until they died.

They would supposedly go for like a thousand days they would subsist on leaves and bark and then they would bury themselves alive and scare quotes to continue that meditation in an underground crypt in order to sort of mumble.

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