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Hey and welcome to the Short Stuff, Josh, Chuck, Jerry, not Dave, but Dave, Short Stuff, let's go.

That's right. We're talking about the very hot trend.

It's been around for a long, long time, depending on where you are in the world, but it's a very

hot trend, of course, among probably celebrity types and influencers. We're talking

of course about cold plunging and specifically the sort of hot cold thing

either hot tub or sauna. Yeah, I'm sorry, sauna.

Is that just you that says that?

No, we got, uh, when we did our sauna episode,

every Finnish person in the world wrote in and said it's pronounced

sauna wow great nicely done yeah I'm gonna start saying sausage sausage

I already say sausage yeah you want to see how the sausage is made?

Do you, are you part finned?

No, no.

I wish I was, but I'm not.

Okay.

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