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Hail Satan and welcome to the short stuff.

I'm Josh and there's Chuck.

And this is our mid-metal two-parter short stuff.

That's more metal adjacent than you can possibly imagine.

We're talking about the origin

of the devil horn's hand sign that is as metal as metal gets as far as hand signs go.

Yeah. I've never had an opportunity to flash this, so I've never really done it, and I feel

like a bit of a nerd, but I'm practicing because of that Judas pre-show.

Yeah.

I figure that'll be a great time to whip it out for the first time.

For sure.

So where did this come from, Chuck?

Well, I mean, let's talk a little bit about what it actually is, because there's a bit of irony attached to this, because when you're at a metal show doing this, you are, you know, what you're really doing is just a fun thing where you're like, this band rocks and this is the appropriate sign that you do at a show like this to indicate that I think this rocks.

But sort of the kind of funny subtext is like, yeah, Satan's horns, but what it really is in origin is sort of the opposite. It's, it's known as a corna, which is Italian for horn,

and it is what you do in old Italy, or even if you're, you know, have a grandma in Italy,

who was still, you know, still sort grandma in Italy, he was still, you know, still

sort of superstitious to ward off the evil eye. It's not like, yeah, Satan rocks. It's like,

no, get the out Satan. Yeah, exactly. So all of the metal fans are like, oh, that's the problem.

That's why Satan never shows up at those things.

We've been doing this wrong.

Yeah.

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