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When news broke earlier this year that baby KJ, a newborn in Philadelphia,

had successfully received the world's first personalized gene editing treatment,

it represented a milestone for both researchers and patients.

But there's a gripping tale of discovery behind this accomplishment and its creators.

I'm Evan Ratliff, and together with biographer Walter

Isaacson, we're delving into the story of Nobel Prize winner Jennifer Dowdna, the woman who's helped

change the trajectory of humanity. Listen to Aunt CRISPR, the story of Jennifer Dowdna with Walter

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Hey, and welcome to the short stuff.

I'm Josh, and there's Chuck.

It's just us, but Jerry and Dave are here in spirit.

And speaking of spirits, we've got a pretty spooky, real-life Halloween-adjacent episode,

even though it's a real deal custom over in China.

That's right, because spooky month continues.

It's stuff you should know.

Yeah.

So we're going to go, Chuck, today, to the Xengji region.

There's no way you can't say region like that.

I know. Of Hunan province.

Oh, my God. You're doing great. That's in south central, China. And if you go, their local custom will tell you that if somebody dies, if someone dies away from their home, especially their birthplace, they have to return back to it to be buried.

Because if they don't, they will have a restless spirit that vexes the living, maybe even possessing them.

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