4.8 • 985 Ratings
🗓️ 14 August 2018
⏱️ 9 minutes
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In today's short podcast episode, Jim Bergmann and Bryan answer the age-old question: Can you really freeze water in a vacuum by pulling down too fast? Is that a problem? What should you do about it?
Here is the short answer: NO. You CAN'T freeze water in a vacuum in a typical residential A/C system.
First of all, you would need to have water in the system to freeze water in the system. We typically don't see large amounts of water in JVAC systems, but there could be moisture in the evaporator coil in refrigeration. Coupled with the very low temperatures, you could see freezing under vacuum in those systems.
However, you will almost never see freezing moisture under vacuum in residential comfort cooling. On top of that, you would need to have enough water to freeze, not even considering the vacuum speed. We cannot achieve a vacuum that would cause that much water to freeze in a system.
When you perform a decay test, the pressure rise will taper. (If it doesn't rise, then you have a leak.) When the pressure tails off, you've likely come across moisture in the system. You can usually remove that moisture without having to worry about freezing; that moisture will merely exit the system under vacuum, and it typically will not freeze.
But what about water in a normal, non-HVAC vacuum? Can you freeze water in a vacuum then? YES.
The water would vaporize before it freezes, and it would sublimate off very quickly on most vacuum rigs. You can check out this article and video to watch an experiment in action.
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0:00.0 | Hey, this is Brian. |
0:04.0 | Sometimes I kind of yell when I say that hey part. |
0:07.0 | It seems like I'm talking to you, right? |
0:08.0 | I mean, I'm talking to you, I'm right here coming out of your speakers. |
0:11.0 | But the truth is, I'm actually sitting in a padded room |
0:15.6 | in my office at work at the Kailos offices |
0:18.2 | with a microphone, literally probably three inches from my face. |
0:21.0 | And somebody's as hard to get the enunciation just right. |
0:22.9 | Some is like, hey, you know, okay, little inside the curtain. |
0:25.2 | All right, this is episode, short episode number 18, and it is all about, |
0:29.1 | can you make ice in a vacuum? |
0:30.9 | Because this is a thing that comes up a lot. A lot of technicians want to know how fast of a vacuum is too fast, how big of a pump is too big, how big a hose is too big, and so we're going to talk about it. But before we do, I want to remind you about our great sponsors, the ones who pay the bills, keep the lights on and make it. |
0:43.0 | our great sponsors, the ones who pay the bills, keep the lights on and make this |
0:46.1 | podcast possible and hopefully as good and or as bad as it is, depending on your perspective |
0:51.0 | I guess. |
0:52.0 | Big thanks to the makers of Viper |
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0:58.5 | Also, UEI and their WRS digital wireless scales. |
1:04.4 | You may think to yourself, |
1:05.0 | why do I need a wireless scale? |
1:06.0 | There's no point in that. |
1:06.6 | Well, until you try the UEEI-WRS scales, |
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