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Breakpoint

Shooting at a Michigan LDS Church, Louise Perry Converts, Mississippi Test Scores Skyrocket; Third Way-ism, Keller, and Kirk

Breakpoint

Colson Center

Religion & Spirituality, News Commentary, Politics, Culture, Christianity, Currentevents, Worldview, News

4.82.8K Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Another attack on a house of faith, this time the motive appears more religious than political. Louise Perry, a non-religious feminist, converts to Christianity. And what’s helped Mississippi turn around its long-time miserable student test scores. 

 

 

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0:00.0

You're listening to Breakpoint this week, where we're talking about the top stories of the week from a Christian worldview perspective.

0:08.3

Today, we're going to talk about the shooting that took place at the LDS Church in Michigan.

0:13.7

And we're also going to have a conversation about Third Wayism and Charlie Kirkism and what's the difference?

0:19.7

And when should we use which approach?

0:22.0

We have a lot to cover today. Stick around.

0:26.2

Welcome back to Breakpoint this week. I'm Katie Faust and I am here with John Stone Street.

0:30.7

We're going to hit a few of the headlines that have been trending across social media and media media, regular media, over the last week. And we're going to kick

0:39.1

off with a really sad and disturbing attack on an LDS church that took place last week on

0:47.5

September 28th. And this was, this was awful, one part mass shooting, one part arson attack,

0:54.0

while people were worshipping.

0:57.4

So, John, you want to say anything about that? We can talk a little bit. You know, there's been a lot of

1:01.3

discussion since Charlie Kirk's assassination about violence, political violence specifically,

1:07.7

targeting a violence of Christians specifically. You know, how does this fall

1:12.1

into that whole matrix of political violence? And does it, does it fall into that rubric at all?

1:16.9

Well, it falls into the rubric of violence. It falls into the rubric of violence against religious

1:21.2

communities. What it doesn't fall into neatly is the neat political categories that we've

1:25.9

tried to throw with this kind of violence into, where when it seems to be easily blamable on the right, the left is quick to do it, and when it seems to be blamable on the left, the right does it.

1:35.6

Now, I'm not saying at all that there's no reason for that. We have seen kind of extremists, more so on the left, recently commit acts of violence, particularly

1:47.0

targeting religious communities, targeting religious figures, targeting people, you know,

1:52.0

interestingly enough on specifically, it seems like the trans ideology has had a lot to do with it,

1:57.0

whether, you know, with the comorbidity of a mental illness, uh, with a mass shooter who

2:01.8

identifies as trans or non-binary or one of the many identity categories, and then blames people

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