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It's Bullseye. I'm Jesse Thorne.

How many TV episodes has Shonda Rhymes written?

It's got to be hundreds, right? Maybe a thousand?

She's created seven shows.

Scandal, private practice and Grey's Anatomy, among them.

Gray's Anatomy, of course, is one of the longest running primetime television shows ever.

Pretty much everything that Shonda Rhymes has made has been watched and adored by millions.

She's gotten awards, praise, Emmys, the NAACP, the Writers Guild, the Glad, even Michelle Obama is a fan.

Look, I could go on, but instead, let's just agree, Shonda Rhymes is beloved

and accomplished. Imagine the amount of work all that took, a number of days and night staring at a

blank screen, then an outline, then a draft, rewrites, shoots, writers' rooms over and over and

over again, hundreds and hundreds of times. What have I told you that despite all her

accomplishments and her accolades, Shonda Rhymes is only just now starting to feel like a success.

That, along with a bunch of other stuff, is what she told our correspondent, Jared Hill, in this

interview we're about to play for you. It's from last year. It's kind of astonishing

to think that there is basically no level of success at which you are immune from insecurity.

A year ago, her newest project was Queen Charlotte, a spin-off of Bridgeton. It was produced by

Rhymes and her company, Shondaland. Queen Charlotte was nominated for two Emmys and took home one. The third season

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