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ReThinking

Shonda Rhimes on saying yes to what scares you

ReThinking

TED

Worklife Podcasts, Adam Grant, Rethinking Podcast, Ted Podcast Adam Grant, Organizational Psychology, Ted Talks, Adam Grant Podcasts, Society & Culture

4.7626 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Shonda Rhimes is the revolutionary creator, writer, and executive producer behind so many groundbreaking TV shows—from Grey’s Anatomy and Scandal to Bridgerton and How To Get Away With Murder. Her work has changed the way stories are told on TV and the lives of viewers who see themselves represented on the screen for the first time. Shonda and Adam sit down for a live conversation at BetterUp’s Uplift Summit to discuss the moments that shaped Shonda’s success, what it takes to make bold moves, and the lessons from Shonda’s memoir Year of Yes. They also compare notes on the shared traits of great leaders and storytellers, and Shonda weighs in on what makes a pitch compelling.


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Host: Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: adamgrant.net/)

Guest: Shonda Rhimes (Instagram: @shondarhimes | TikTok: @shonarhimes


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shondalandmedia.com

Year of Yes by Shonda Rhimes


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