Hi, everyone. Welcome to the A6 and Z podcast. I'm Sonal. Today's episode, which was originally recorded at our most recent annual innovation summit in Los Angeles, features A6&Z co-founder Mark Andreessen, interviewing prolific writer and executive producer Shonda Rhymes, who will also premiere new content on Netflix along with an original slate

of podcasts in 2020. So very fitting to be sharing that here. The episode that follows covers

the challenges all creative founders face, whether for Hollywood show business or Silicon

Valley tech companies or elsewhere, from scaling themselves beyond one person to figuring

out how and when to use data or follow

their intuition and much, much more.

Hey, everybody.

Thank you all for being here today.

Shonda, thank you so much for doing this.

Thank you for asking you.

We know you live a fairly busy life.

And so it's a big deal to get here tonight.

We're just thrilled to talk to you.

So I'd like to start with a show of hands.

How many people in this audience have seen the TV show, a little independent TV show on a little

obscure network called Gray's Anatomy? Is that right? And then keep the hands up, let's keep the

hands up. And then who on top of that, who has seen the TV show scandal? And then on top of

that, let's put up for How to Get Over with Murder. There we go. I see two hands up in the front.

Fantastic. I'm a little concerned.

I know who that is, and the fact that she's seen that show makes me a little nervous.

So I'd like to start by quoting a TED talk.

So in your words, I think how you actually introduced

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