Shon Faye: Trans liberation will free us all
The Owen Jones Podcast
Owen Jones
4.4 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 16 September 2021
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
Shon Faye is the author of one of the most important books of our time - THE TRANSGENDER ISSUE. Coming at a time of vicious anti-trans backlash, we explore why the liberation of trans people will free everyone, how the current moral panic against trans people is similar and different from that gay people have faced, the situation facing young trans people, why liberation is bound up with the struggle against capitalism - and much else.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, it's Owen Jones, welcome to the podcast. Sean Fay has become one of the most prominent |
| 0:12.7 | trans writers, trans-public figures, frankly, in Britain at a time of a very, very intense |
| 0:20.6 | and unpleasant anti-trans campaign by much of the media and the political elite. She's |
| 0:26.0 | written in your book, The Transgender Issue, which you'll hear me praise some more, but let me |
| 0:30.7 | just say this, it's absolutely incredible. You really must get a copy. We talk about a lot, |
| 0:35.8 | we talk about how trans liberation will liberate all of us, the parallels and differences between |
| 0:43.6 | the anti-trans campaigns and the anti-gay campaigns of the 1980s in particular onwards, the |
| 0:48.4 | plight of young trans people, for example, the nature of the anti-trans campaign, what's really |
| 0:54.8 | driving it, I suppose? We talk about a lot, capitalism and trans liberation, I mean, honestly, |
| 1:00.3 | it's action-packed. So please do listen and enjoy. As ever, do support us on patreon.com for |
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| 1:30.6 | us a review, you know, a few stars, we will love you forever and ever. With that said, please |
| 1:36.2 | listen to Sean and enjoy. Why hello, it is a very, very big honour to have the one, the |
| 1:45.3 | only, the sensational Sean Faye, who is the author of a book, all of you, don't order |
| 1:51.8 | it now, actually, because you kind of need to either watch or listen to the interview, depending |
| 1:54.6 | on the medium, but you do need to buy the transgender issue. It's one of the most important |
| 1:58.4 | books of our time. That's not hyperbole. It's just an accurate summation of a book, which |
| 2:04.6 | I think in decades to come when they look back at the appalling period of going through |
| 2:08.9 | in terms of transphobia, they will go, this was the definitive book that really summed |
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