Hello everybody.

Welcome to Homo sapiens.

I have got one of my favourite writers here with me sitting opposite me digitally taking up her co-host

slot for the first time it's miss Sean Faye hi oh my god I feel so unworthy of this given that like

the fact that I couldn't even assemble the tech required to co-host.

I'm like this is probably I've done some jobs I've been underqualified for in my time,

but this is one of the big ones I think.

Well, I think you did great.

And more importantly, you're here, we're here.

And we're going to talk about love today.

Love in exile is part of it or perhaps the whole of it is about your relationship

with love as someone as an outsider, I suppose, and how you had interpreted love, how you had misunderstood love, how you had found different ways that

e.g. capitalism makes us feel about love and your kind of path through that, which is really,

we all have very, very specific ideas about love. And does that feel like a sensible nutshell?

Yes, that's a very good pricey.

Yeah, you did a good job.

I'm available for book jacket, right?

No, I would say that that's it, yeah.

I mean, I guess the exile of the title kind of hints at that,

what you describe is this feeling of being of an outsider status.

And I guess like the the book is about far more than romantic love, which I'm always keen to stress for people who haven't read it.

And in fact, I think romantic love comes out not as the most important form of love,

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