All right, so, again, on and off again.

Yes, this was actually before we had our apartment.

That was, I guess, our baby days.

Okay. So y'all were together for three and a half years. Is that fair?

Yes.

And y'all had actually agreed to marry?

He had asked me yes a couple of times to marry them and one time I agreed to yes.

Okay.

So I think, you know, one of the reasons I'm showing this is that did this help or hurt her cause?

And my opinion is it hurt her cause because people got to see who she is and how

she's cold and calculating.

And, you know, a lot of people in the chat says she puts on that little baby voice,

you know, that little victim voice. It's just like, you know, with the Stefan Stern's voice, you know, I'm not a

morning person, like he puts on that, and she puts on a voice too when she's testifying.

And I think testifying, as you know, Mike, as an attorney, usually it's a Hail Mary pass, and it's usually a very bad decision.

And I mean, look, to me, in this case, I almost feel like it didn't matter because no matter what she did in this case, that video was the strongest piece of evidence

against her.

And I believe she would have got convicted no matter what.

Your thoughts?

Bill, yeah.

In her testimony, she's talking about meeting George at a bar, you know, one hour turned into four hours, you know, renting the apartment, getting, you know, he and she breaking up. They thought they were a couple. He asked her to marry her him a couple of times. She said yes, one point. I'm just wondering, you know, how much of this was, you know, all of these conversations occurred when

they were sober or, you know, where they're both intoxicated. It shows that there's a real

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