Hello, everyone and welcome to police off the cuff real crime stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD Sergeant Bill Cannon, a 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

You know, folks, we have a really interesting show, and it would seem that we've exhausted

every possible topic you could do on this Madeline Soto case.

But I'm intrigued, and I think the audience is intrigued,

and so many content creators are intrigued,

on the question you see up on the screen,

is Jennifer Soto clueless, or is she complicit?

Or is she a little bit of both?

You know, I've never seen a story like this, a horrible story like this,

where there was so much prescription drugs involved.

You know, like all the players in this case,

all you hear is every other word is meds. I was taking my meds, you know, like is America this case, all you hear is every other word is meds.

I was taking my meds.

You know, like, is America that drugged up or it's just these two people are this drugged up?

That they're always on their meds, you know?

And so we're going to take a dive into going over.

Is Jennifer Soto Kluos? Wasifer soto clueless was she complicit

and how is she complicit is she is complicit and with stephen stearns we hear all of

these new players coming in and it seems now that his family, his father, Chris, and his mother Deborah, they,

they can't stop talking to different shows and going back to the police and offering up

new information, new old information, perhaps.

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