I'm the Wizard of Oz, I'm the one making everything happen.

Real Housewife of Salt Lake City Star, Jen Shaw, is running the scam of the century.

I remember one time, Stuart lost like about 8 million.

Jen was very upset and she came down to the office late at night with Coach

yelling at him, asking him where their money is.

Listen to Queen of the Con, season 4, the Unreal Housewife.

On the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On his new podcast, six degrees with Kevin Bacon,

join Kevin for inspiring conversations with his friends and fellow celebrities

who are working to make a difference in the world, like actor Matthew McConaughey.

You know, I found myself moving upstate in the middle of this fracking fight, you know,

that I'm trying to raise kids there and, you know, my neighbors like willing to poison my water.

Listen to six degrees with Kevin Bacon on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts.

I remember about four years ago on this show, we talked about a poll.

Update on the poll!

It was asking Jen Zee what they wanted to be when they grew up.

And if you remember, back then, a way high on the list was social media influencer in

YouTuber. But looks like now that's changed.

No, the world needs more 40-minute videos of people unboxing their shoes.

Now the number one thing Jen Zee wants to be when they grow up is a business person.

What? Very vague, Jen Zee.

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