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This Jungian Life Podcast

SHITHOLE: what are we projecting when we say it?

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2018

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

We discuss the symbolic meaning of shit, and shithole, and wonder about shadow projection. What does Trump’s use of this term have to tell us about his psyche – and ours?

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to this Jungian life.

0:03.0

Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marciano, Deborah Stewart and Joseph Lee,

0:09.0

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.

0:17.0

I'm Lisa Marciano and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia.

0:22.0

I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a young

0:24.3

I'm a youngian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia. I'm Deborah Stewart, a

0:28.6

youngian analyst on Cape Cod. And today we are going to join the rest of the country in reveling in the idea of the

0:37.9

shithole. We are going to probe this archetype. We are going to splunk its deep meanings and get our sleeves

0:48.4

rolled up and plunge in to the whole idea of the shit and the shit hole which is appearing everywhere, a word that

0:59.3

normally is not used in polite society.

1:02.6

We're turning on the television.

1:04.8

Newscasters are saying shit hole.

1:07.7

People are embarrassed about it,

1:09.9

but they can't seem to stop saying it.

1:13.6

So what is it about the idea of the shihole

1:17.2

that we just can't move beyond?

1:23.0

Partly, I think everyone has caught onto this phrase because the President of the United States said it and said it about African countries and our

1:37.2

geographic neighbor Haiti and it is such a shock to hear not only the language but the horrible sort of pejorative, if I may, feeling about these things,

1:51.6

that people are jolted by it.

1:54.4

And in some peculiar way, it seems to have legitimized

1:57.9

the use of this word shithole,

2:00.2

since the president said it, we might as you know all go for it and of course it's a way of

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