Shiso: Turning Over an Old Leaf
Savor
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4.3 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 23 January 2026
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
This leafy herb comes with a dense set of names, varieties, and uses. Anney and Lauren dig into the science and history of Perilla frutescens (sometimes called shiso).
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:13.3 | Hello, and welcome to Save Her prediction of IHeart Radio. |
| 0:15.6 | I'm Annie Reese. |
| 0:16.2 | And I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we have an episode for you about Shiso. |
| 0:25.3 | Yes. A difficult one in some ways. It was. It was. The reading for this one was a little tough to track down, as it can be for some |
| 0:33.0 | types of produce that are just really common. |
| 0:38.3 | People are like, oh, yeah, I don't need to write about that. |
| 0:41.5 | I just pick it out of the ground where it grows everywhere. |
| 0:45.9 | And compounding upon that, products that are not from Europe are more difficult to read about in English. |
| 0:56.9 | Yes. Indeed they are. Indeed they are the lament of a podcaster in the U.S. |
| 1:04.5 | But was there a particular reason this was on your mind, Lauren? Oh, was there? |
| 1:14.8 | I should be more prepared. I love how this is always a shocking question to you. Oh, my goodness. Maybe I ordered sushi. I think it's been on the list for a long |
| 1:25.5 | time, and I had never suggested it before because of the aforementioned difficulty in finding good sources about it. |
| 1:35.5 | But finally, I was like, eh, let's do it. |
| 1:38.3 | Now is the time. |
| 1:39.3 | Let's be bold. |
| 1:41.5 | Being bold in the new year. |
| 1:51.3 | And I have to say, I think, I believe this is true. As a team at Saver, we adore Shiso. |
| 2:02.1 | Yeah, I think that's correct. It's definitely one of the things, like, I love Shiso a lot. And it's one of the things that, like, I'm still not sick of it on a drink menu. If I see it, |
| 2:08.4 | like, labeled as like, and it's garnished with Shiso, I'm like, that one. Whoever made that one knows what I'm about, let's go. It's just so nice. It's just so nice. It is so nice. And I got all kinds of cravings I was not expecting |
| 2:20.6 | doing this research because I'm like, she's so pesto. Right. Yes. I think I will. |
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