Welcome to Just Between Us, the podcast with all of the answers, some of the time.

A bit of a different thing going on this week.

You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

I don't know. I guess you'd have to ask.

Someone that has sex.

Someone that has sex.

And remember, it's just between us.

Welcome to the History Extra podcast.

Fascinating historical conversations from BBC History Magazine and BBC History Reveal.

In January 1742, a ramshackle boat washed up on the Brazilian shoreline.

Inside were 30 men, half-starved and close to madness.

Claiming to be survivors of the shipwrecked British vessel, the Wager,

they told an incredible tale of survival on the high seas. The men were

hailed as heroes, until six months later, another ship turned up. And these castaways had a very

different story to tell about what had happened on the wager. Author David Gran charts this gripping story

in a new book, and I spoke to him to uncover the tale. Your new book, The Wager, tells the story

of a British ship that was wrecked off the coast of Patagonia in 1741. But in fact, that shipwreck is

actually only a small part of what turns out to be a fairly

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