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Shiny Happy People w/ Tia Levings

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Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 16 August 2023

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Tia Levings grew up in a Southern Baptist megachurch, was recruited into fundamentalism by mentors following Bill Gothard's IBLP (Institute of Basic Life Principles), and eventually landed in a high control group (cult) that taught Federalist Marriage: the idea that husbands are responsible for their wives before God, and so are accountable to lead and discipline them as children. She was excommunicated and formally shunned in 2007 and narrowly escaped that violent marriage with her 4 children later that year. She started trauma therapy for CPTSD in 2008. Today she's an author & advocate who supports survivors of religious trauma and educates them on the abuses of Christian Fundamentalism. Tia believes that how the fundamentalists run their homes is how they want to run the country ––and that's why it's vital to understand what it's really like to live that way. In this emotional and poignant discussion, Tia shares her powerful story of resilience and survival under the oppressive control of the IBLP's "Umbrella of Authority".Throughout the conversation, Rachel and Tia unpack the patriarchal teachings of Gothard explaining how they enable and protect abusers. Before You Go: Rachel points out the insidious nature of the IBLP idea of "god's choice" with regard to spousal courtship, explaining how this manipulation can potentially lead to dangerous outcomes. All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

Welcome to Indocination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control. I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

0:13.8

Hi everyone. Thanks entirely to listeners like you, who generously support the show on Patreon.

0:20.4

Indocination has been going for over five years now,

0:24.2

releasing a new episode every week,

0:26.6

plus new bonus episodes for Patreon supporters twice a month.

0:33.6

In those almost six years since we started back in 2018, a community of like-minded shows has grown around us.

0:42.9

We are so grateful to see the numerous other podcasters doing really great work in the cult education and recovery space.

0:51.1

Whenever we take notice of these shows, I like to reach out and collaborate, which, as

0:56.0

some of you know, has led to several crossover episodes with shows like the influence continuum

1:01.8

with Steve Hassan, a little bit culty with Sarah and Nippy, as well as one we'd like to highlight

1:07.4

today, Mind Shift with Dr. Clint Haycock. If you have not already done so,

1:14.2

please make sure to check out our last crossover episode with Dr. Haycock, who will be joining us

1:19.3

again in just a few weeks to discuss topics around his expertise in Christian fundamentalism.

1:26.3

Clint is a former pastor and Bible College teacher with a sharp analytical mind and deep theological knowledge, which he displays on mind shift.

1:36.9

Here's Dr. Haycock now to describe the show in his own words.

1:42.2

I was raised in a cult.

1:48.8

Of course, if you'd have asked me all those years ago or anyone else in our small fundamentalist church if we were a cult, we'd have indignantly replied, absolutely not.

1:53.6

Other groups like the Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses, their cults, but we're not a cult.

1:58.1

Everything became normalized though, but it wasn't until decades later

2:00.9

after I deconstructed my entire belief system and walked away from the Christian faith entirely

2:05.9

that I began to see just how cultish the whole thing actually was. But before all of that,

2:10.6

for over 20 years, I'd served both as a pastor and a Bible college teacher, so I had a hand

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