Shiny Happy People Star joins us to talk about Duggar arrests, fake(?) documents, and IBLP
Leaving Eden Podcast
Leaving Eden LLC
4.5 • 744 Ratings
🗓️ 31 March 2026
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
Shiny Happy People star Chad Harris joins us on this episode to discuss the latest developments in the Joe/Kendra Duggar cases. We discuss the potentially fake documents published by Katie Joy of the YouTube Channel "Without a Crystal Ball," the Joe/Kendra Duggar phone call, statements made by Jinger/Jeremy, and Jason/Maddie. In the third segment we answer listener questions about the arrests, about the Duggars, and about the IBLP in general.
These are the two appeals to loss of parental rights cases we mentioned in the episode.
https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-24-747.html
https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-25-38.html
00:00 - Intro
01:44 - Subscribe to our Patreon!
02:20 - NO VICTIM SPECULATION
02:45 - Katie Joy and the fake(?) court documents
04:50 - What is a trusted source?
08:04 - Josh got visitation with his kids
11:02 - Thank you to our patrons!
12:48 - Statement from Jinger and Jeremy
15:40 - Statement from Jason and Maddie
19:50 - IBLP fails young men
22:00 - Phone call between Joe and Kendra
24:58 - Kendra is in a difficult spot
29:25 - Every home is a cult and every father is a cult leader
30:23 - Why do we talk about this? The stakes are high!
34:53 - Listener Questions! 35:17 - 6th amendment rights
37:35 - Why did Jim Bob want to be on TV?
40:47 - Child Endangerment Clarification
45:08 - What if the Duggars were allowed to date?
47:29 - Gothardism and Jim Bob's trauma
53:54 - Why are all the Duggar daughters social media influencers?
55:35 - Did Jim Bob and Michelle reconsider their choices?
55:58 - Why do the women stay?
57:50 - How to bring down the IBLP
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| 0:00.0 | No rolling river of time. |
| 0:07.0 | You've healed me in too many days. |
| 0:13.0 | No regrets, no confusion. |
| 0:18.0 | There'll be no pollution. |
| 0:22.5 | I'm so thankful I've decided to change my ways. |
| 0:29.9 | Welcome into the Leaving Eden podcast. |
| 0:32.1 | We are here discussing the ongoing Joseph Dugger arrest for CSA and the arrest of Kendra Dugger on child endangerment |
| 0:39.3 | and false imprisonment charges. |
| 0:40.4 | As always, Sadie Carpenter. |
| 0:41.7 | She is here. |
| 0:42.4 | She is a fundamentalism survivor, cult expert. |
| 0:44.7 | And today we are joined by our good friend and frequent contributor, Chad Harris. |
| 0:48.9 | You all saw him in the Amazon docu series, Shiny Happy People, Dugger Family Secrets. |
| 0:53.7 | We will be discussing the details |
| 0:55.9 | of this that continue to be released as well as how that relates to the fundamentalist |
| 1:00.0 | movement as a whole. And the whole point of talking about this is to explain the real |
| 1:04.6 | consequences that this lifestyle and this religious movement has on society. So that's what we're |
| 1:08.8 | doing. And then we've got some listener questions that we're going to wrap up with at the end. So that's what we've got in store today. My name's Gavi. How are we all feeling today? How are we all doing? It's all our season in Portland. It's been a hell of a week to watch the news. Yesterday I was talking with my friend Rachel Kane and she introduced me as a |
| 1:27.5 | Dugger expert and I was like, damn, I hate to have that title right now. It's not my choice, |
| 1:33.0 | trust me. You were in the documentary show. Yeah, it's accurate, but I'd rather be an expert on |
| 1:39.4 | literally anything else, but yeah. We don't get to choose what the Lord calls us to, you know. |
| 1:44.9 | So as this story keeps developing, we're going to discuss it. |
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