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Shiny Happy People Joins The #Resistance (#341)

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Religion on the Mind

Religion, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.7542 Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Sarah Lane Ritchie is back for our final Shiny Happy People discussion from Season 2 of the Amazon docuseries. Sarah opens with a delightfully unhinged question about whether I've ever been exorcised (spoiler: I haven't, but Sarah casually drops that she's had "many, many" attempted exorcisms like it's no big deal).  We then tear into episode three's heavy-handed turn toward political fearmongering that had even us progressive-leaning viewers rolling our eyes at their irresponsible psychoanalytic claims about Ron Luce and bristling at the lack of journalistic integrity while declaring existential threats to democracy.  Behind the Patreon paywall, Sarah makes her compelling academic case for why Honor Academy functioned as a cult (it checks pretty much every box), we dive deep into my spiritual abuse research and how multiple subtypes show up in the Teen Mania system, and we wrestle with the genuinely difficult question of how much "collateral damage" might be acceptable when intense religious experiences create both profound meaning and lasting trauma for different people. ⁠⁠Watch Shiny Happy People Season 2⁠⁠ Sarah's Website | ⁠⁠⁠Sarahlaneritchie.net⁠⁠⁠ YHP Episodes on Season 1: ⁠⁠Shiny Happy People: Did Bill Gothard Create Pedophiles? (#198)⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Shiny Happy People: Are Children Born Evil? (#200)⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Shiny Happy People: Was Bill Gothard A Cult Leader? (#202)⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Is "Shiny Happy People" Anti-Religion? (#204)⁠ ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sarah, let's start with something really, really relatable.

0:07.8

Have you ever had the thing where you get a Zit directly under your wedding ring?

0:15.6

Have that happened to you?

0:16.5

I feel like I'm a really empathetic person who has some life experience that will connect me to anyone else's life experience. On this one, though, you may have stumped me. I can't say this has ever happened. Well, first of all, is your, do you wear a ring and is it like thinner? Like Jeffreys is very thin. Yes, yes. I have in the past, but I currently am not like wearing any rings. So mine is like... They bother me.

0:38.5

Oh, okay.

0:39.0

Well, that's really what I'm saying.

0:40.9

So I wear like a four or five millimeter or whatever kind of thickness, like a medium band.

0:46.0

And that is exactly wide enough for like a honker fingers it, which I have.

0:53.3

So I'm, so I keep thinking like I'm washing my hands or I'm doing anything and I keep thinking

0:58.4

like I've got something on my hands or whatever because I swapped sides.

1:02.5

I'm going euro.

1:03.8

I'm going euro these couple days to avoid zip pain.

1:07.9

This is, of course, the You Have Permission podcast.

1:11.2

You have permission to share your most singular experiences of discomfort.

1:16.2

We are back, we're back doing our final episode of discussing Shining Happy People Season 2,

1:23.2

the Prime dokey series. And I wanted to start out by actually saying,

1:27.4

the delegation from Washington

1:28.9

acknowledges the delegation from New Jersey in honor of the distinctly political turn taken in

1:38.9

episode three of shiny happy people season two. One little piece of business before we jump in. And I'm grateful that you have come up with our first like grenade toss opening question. But I, you can probably already hear this in my voice. I am getting sick. I'm coming down with a cold. Oh, it's because you just finished your internship. Well, it might be. Yeah. Yesterday was. It is every time I've ever submitted the final paper, I get like deathly ill for the week following.

2:04.8

Yeah.

2:05.9

Although Jaffrey told me this morning that she's had it for like three or four days.

2:08.8

So that might be also a contributing factor.

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