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The Way Out Is In

Shining Light (Episode #63)

The Way Out Is In

Plum Village

Education, Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Self-improvement, Religion & Spirituality, Buddhism

4.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2024

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to episode 63 of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives. In this episode, Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and leadership coach/journalist Jo Confino explore ‘shining light’. This deep-looking practice, established in the Plum Village community, allows monastics to share and receive feedback, so that they can learn and grow together, and better understand each other. Fresh from a shining light session, Brother Phap Huu offers insights into the practice and its evolution over the years, while Jo brings insights from feedback systems in the lay communities. Their conversation touches upon radical transparency, power dynamics, generating joy and happiness in the sangha, the practice of gratitude, the importance of language in the process of growth, bringing this shining light into the everyday, and much more.  Enjoy! Co-produced by the Plum Village App:https://plumvillage.app/ And Global Optimism:https://globaloptimism.com/  With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/ List of resources  ‘Shining the Light’https://www.parallax.org/mindfulnessbell/article/shining-the-light/  ‘The Practice of Gratitude’https://plumvillage.org/articles/the-practice-of-gratitude  Interbeinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing Sutras: ‘Discourse on the Dharma Seal & the Three Doors of Liberation’https://plumvillage.org/library/sutras/discourse-on-the-dharma-seal-the-three-doors-of-liberation ‘The Four Dharma Seals of Plum Village’https://plumvillage.org/articles/the-four-dharma-seals-of-plum-village  Bhikkhuhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhikkhu  Quotes “Meditation on offering guidance. Lord Buddha and teachers over many generations, today we have a chance to practice offering guidance to our brothers, sisters, and friends. We know that in spirit, we are all part of one sangha, that our flesh and bones are also part of one sangha. Therefore, we are aware that offering guidance to another is offering guidance to ourselves. We vow to use all of our love and understanding in order to practice offering guidance. We promise that every word we speak will come from the good intention of wanting to have a correct view about the person to whom guidance is being offered. We vow not to let our anger, sadness, and prejudice wrongly influence our opinion. We promise that every word we speak will come from love, because offering guidance to one is also offering guidance to many. We are aware that this practice will offer benefits to each of us. Dear Buddha and ancestral teachers, please support us in our wholehearted effort to successfully offer guidance today.”  “The essence of this [practice] lies in real friendship or in real relationships. According to my understanding and experience of relationships, they require the time and space to acknowledge the flowers, as well as to support one another when we see a particular negative habit or tendency. This may be a viewpoint, or a recurring action. And if you don’t fix it, or if you don’t support the other person to change it, it will grow.” “When you hear something as simple as, ‘When you smile, brother, you make the whole room smile’, that’s a wonderful quality [to be told that you have]. I received this [complement] when I was a young novice. And I’d never experienced that before: being acknowledged for a simple action that can help brighten the room. And that became one of the threads in the fabric of who I am, and I always remember that [complement] when I smile. So shining light can water the seed that helps the wonderful characteristics of a human being grow and develop.”  “Freedom is freedom from something

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0:00.0

Dear listeners, welcome back to this latest episode of the podcast series The Way Out

0:07.0

is In. I am Joe Konfino working at the intersection of personal transformation and systems evolution.

0:30.0

And I am Brother Fabu, a Zen Buddhist monk, student of Zen Master Tickingham in the Plum Village tradition.

0:36.0

And Brother, you have just come back from a session which in Plum Village is called Shining Light, which is a way of giving feedback to the monastics

0:48.4

so that you can learn together, grow together and understand each other better.

0:53.4

So today we're going to explore the practice of the team. Hello everyone. I'm Joe Confino and I am Brother Fuphoo.

1:19.0

And as I said brother we are going to experience today what shining light is. Now when I was

1:28.3

working I used to get an annual feedback. So this was called 360 feedback and I would basically send out a form to

1:40.3

eight colleagues, both people above me and below me, and they would fill in certain questions.

1:47.6

Those questions would be anonymized and they would go back to a trainer and then I would meet with that consultant and they would take me back through the

1:59.2

good the bad and the ugly.

2:01.7

So it was individual, I only knew it myself. No one else knew about it.

2:07.9

I got no public feedback. It was all anonymized and then the feedback as I said was given by someone who didn't work for the company but was paid for their services.

2:18.4

Is that what you do in Plum Village with shining light?

2:22.3

Not exactly, but there are some elements there, like the 360, but we do it collectively, and we use what we call the Sanga Aye.

2:31.0

So do you want to tell us what is the difference and well maybe the sort of what's the

2:36.3

purpose of it and how often do you do it?

2:40.3

Thank you Joe. This practice called Shining Light, we do it once a year as a practice for all the monastic community.

2:51.0

And in Plum Village here, we have three different hamlets, so new hamlet,

2:55.8

lower hamlet, and upper hamlet. And we would do it in our individual hamlets because we live together, we work together, we practice together, and we serve together, so therefore we have 365 days of a collective awareness of individuals way of being.

3:18.1

So we have more clarity.

3:20.0

So this practice here, it is quite intimate and there has to be enough

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