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Shifting the Overton Window

Main Justice

MS NOW, Andrew Weissmann, Mary McCord

Versant, Indictment, Trump Indictment, Manhattan D.a., District Attorney, President, Ms Now, Politics, Trump Indicted, Legal, Trump Charged, News, Charges, Msnbc, Mary Mccord, Trump Legal, Andrew Weissmann

4.76.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Strong reactions to what was—and wasn’t released in the DOJ’s Epstein file dump. Plus: A three-judge panel says troops can temporarily remain in DC.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to Maine Justice.

0:05.1

It is Monday morning, December 22nd.

0:08.0

I am Andrew Weissman, and I'm here with my co-host, Mary McCord.

0:12.9

Hi, Mary.

0:14.3

Good morning, Andrew.

0:15.7

How are you today this holiday week?

0:18.0

You know, it's December 22nd, and I've been thinking a lot because we may not

0:23.2

have a show next week, depending on whether there's news or not. And so because of that, I've been

0:29.8

thinking a lot about this last year. And it has definitely made me reflect on sort of where we are

0:36.3

and what might be coming up. It's hard to not view it as

0:40.8

almost a full year, 11 months under the Trump administration 2.0. But you know, even before January 20th,

0:48.5

even everything after the election, we were already like thinking through, I mean, first in terms of the podcast,

0:55.2

we were thinking through, well, this is probably the end of the prosecution. So where do we go from

0:59.9

here? And then just in terms of everything else, you know, there was that preparing already for

1:06.6

day one. And as our listeners know, lots of litigators, including my organization ICAP, were ready

1:13.7

and filed lawsuits within 24 hours of things like the attempted rescission of birthright citizenship.

1:20.1

So, you know, I was thinking the same thing this morning, Andrew, well, January 20th, there'll be a year.

1:24.9

And I thought, actually, it's been a year that we've been

1:28.3

already kind of like absorbed with what this administration would do and did do and has done

1:34.8

and is continuing to do. In terms of those litigations, and I kept being one of the many

1:40.1

terrific organizations, there have been over 500 lawsuits. We always are pitching just security,

1:47.1

but you can go to just security and get their litigation tracker and a running tally,

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