Hi, I'm Josie Duffy Rice, and this is the Justice in America Book Bonus.

I'm here with Sherlin Eiffel, she's the President and Director of Council of the

NAACP Legal Defense Fund.

I wonder if you can tell our listeners what you're reading.

So one I can tell you is, actually I went back a few weeks ago

to read some Aceve, some Chinua chevé and I literally sat on a Saturday just sat and just

read and it was fantastic. That sounds like a, that sounds like that you can't have many

Saturdays like that. No it was like a, but that's my idea of a vacation.

That's how weird I am, but that was my idea of a vacation.

That was fantastic.

What else have I read recently?

So many of my book stack, goodness.

The book I wanted to tell you about,

which I'm just still reading.

It's Martin Kilson, and the name of the book

is Transformation of the African American Intelligentsia,

1880 to 2012.

Wow.

And I'm reading this book, not because I'm that egg-headed,

but I'm reading the book because, you know, after the election,

the writer of the author of the warmth of other sons and I did a program together and she

argued that we are entering or in the Nadir and I didn't want to publicly say she

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