Hey everyone. It's Michael Shermer. It's time for another episode of the Michael Shermer show. This is a special edition of the Shermer says segments of this show. This one I'm calling me and Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, no, say it ain't so. It ain't so. But I am in the Jeffrey Epstein files. Yes, as everybody knows, by now, there's like three million documents on a government

website where you can search by name.

Anyway, so a friend of mine sent me some screenshots of letters of emails that I mentioned

in.

Oh, my God, I had no idea.

All right, so here's the setup.

In 2017, it was the 25th anniversary of Skeptic Magazine.

Here it is.

Just give a little plug for Skeptic.

We've been going since 1992.

So in 2017 was our 25th anniversary.

So I thought, well, we should do something special, get a little extra boost for the magazine, a little more media exposure and so on, because we're kind of a niche magazine.

And anyway, so you hired this PR firm in New York City and to put on a big 25th anniversary event in New York.

And so they set that up at the YouTube Google headquarters there in the Chelsea building in Manhattan. And they said, okay, we need, it can't just be you on stage, you know, you're not that well-known. We need some celebrities. I know, well, I know, you know, like Richard Dawkins and Stephen Pinker and Dan Dennett. And, you know, I know some of these.

No, no, no, no, real celebrities.

Okay, well, who do I know? I don't know that many real celebrities. Wait a minute. I know Deepak Chopra. He and I have debated over the years, but we're, you know, kind of friendly. So I contacted Deepak. He said, yeah, sure, I'll do it.

It was fun.

Deepak was entertaining. And there was a pretty big audience.

Maybe there was a couple hundred people there. contacted Deepak and he said, yeah, sure, I'll do it. It was fun. Deepak was entertaining and there

was a pretty big audience. Maybe there's a couple hundred people there. And it was filmed and

broadcast anyway. It was big fun. And that was it until yesterday when I found out who was in the

audience. Apparently Epstein and a couple of guests, apparently probably young women or somebody

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