Shenoah Allen
The Comedian's Comedian Podcast
Stuart Goldsmith
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 12 February 2026
⏱️ 76 minutes
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Summary
Shenoah Allen is the co-creator of the legendary The Pajama Men, as well as a writer, actor and director with credits across the Soho Theatre, the West End, and projects developed with the BBC and HBO - as well as even appearing on Breaking Bad!
Now he's now created the dazzling work of genius that is Sunlight with Nina Conti and is currently on tour with Bloodlust Summertime. We discuss:
- using a monkey mask to tell the most human love story possible
- treating the script like a jazz framework rather than a rulebook
- how “doing nothing” can be the strongest acting choice
- the challenges of leaving a 20-year comedy partnership
- turning teenage dread into a solo comedy show
- and creating something that outlives you
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome back to the show. I'm Stuart Goldsmith and today I'm talking to |
| 0:20.7 | Shanoa Allen. |
| 0:21.8 | He first graced this podcast as one half of the legendary pajama men. |
| 0:26.8 | And I described them to someone recently who hadn't heard of them and I felt old because they were like you just couldn't, you couldn't miss the pajama men at the Edinburgh Festival. |
| 0:36.8 | What, are we talking 10? If I think it was 10 years ago, it was probably 15 years ago. They did some exquisite shows. And I heartily recommend you seek out the original episode of this pod. Search Pajama. I don't think it's pyjama. I think it's pajama in your podcast, whatever they're called, platform in order to find it, because Shanoa and Mark |
| 0:55.5 | Chavez used to do these incredible shows, mime, clown, funny shows, are brilliant, brilliant, |
| 1:01.3 | one-liners. I tell you what, if you enjoy the one-liner I'm about to say to you, which I |
| 1:05.4 | mentioned in that interview, no one else understood, then you'll enjoy that. One of the |
| 1:09.8 | characters said, I went for a walk in the park. It was easy. That kind of thing, right? But with lovely clown and mime as well. So anyway, that's where Shanoa is from. But he's also a writer and an actor and a director. He's got credits across Soho Theatre, the West End projects developed with the BBC and HBO. He was briefly in Breaking Bad, and that was an awful lot of fun. |
| 1:29.6 | So that was very fun to watch when you're in the middle of Breaking Bad, and Shanoa pops up. |
| 1:33.5 | More recently, however, Shanoa has created this movie with Nina Conti. |
| 1:38.1 | It's called Sunlight, and it is a dazzling work of absolute genius. There is not a moment in it that isn't |
| 1:47.3 | either funny or heartbreaking or beautiful. I absolutely loved it. And you know how much I hate |
| 1:54.6 | doing research. It's so, so good. And it's also, well, we'll tell you about it. We'll talk |
| 1:59.0 | about it in detail in this interview. So, but it is, I had the I think I realised at the time, it is completely available to you. It has been released and you can find it. So if you've got, I've got a clever app, what's it called? You basically put telly in it. You put the name of a show and it tells you what platform it's on. It's called Just Watch. This is not SponCon, but I use it all the time. Look for sunlight and just watch it |
| 2:19.0 | literally today because it's wonderful. Shonoma is also on tour with Bloodlust Summertime, which is an |
| 2:24.8 | incredible, I mean, it's just an astonishing, funny, funny show about his ludicrous upbringing, |
| 2:31.7 | and we're going to talk about that as well. In the first half, we'll discuss |
| 2:34.3 | how he had to unlearn some of the habits built from his time in the Pajama Men double act. |
| 2:38.8 | We'll talk about using a monkey mask to tell the most human love story possible. We'll talk about |
| 2:44.5 | treating the script like a jazz framework rather than a rulebook. Come on improv, people. |
| 2:50.3 | And we will talk as well about how doing |
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