I'm Alan Alder and this is Clear and Vivid, conversations about connecting and communicating.

For 35 years I had a job in which I could make films that I wanted to make.

What I like to do at microcosmic stories about one person, because one person is more

interesting than a million people.

To me, I mean a million people may be suffering, but I get that suffering from one person.

Sheila Nebens has explored the human condition in the thousands or so documentaries she produced

for HBO.

For more than 30 years of telling us stories about ourselves, to her experience as a woman

in the workplace, Sheila has plenty to say about

communicating and she never holds back.

Sheila, I'm so glad to be talking to you because you know we talk a lot about communicating

and relating on this show.

And what I love is that you can talk about it from so many different directions, so many

different ways of relating and communicating.

You may not even realize that right now.

No, I'm not sure I do.

You will get it.

I know that I talk too much.

Is that part of it?

I had to learn that to talk so much.

You did?

Oh, God.

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