What's up everybody? Welcome into Tom Curran's Patriots Talk podcast. Hey, we have a fun one today. I know that you probably drafted out. We tried to come up with a couple of different angles.

First, we're going to speak to Dan Duggan from The Athletic.

What does Dan Duggan do?

Well, first of all, he's from Massachusetts.

He's a Quincy guy.

And he covers the Giants.

So what we're trying to do is probe Dan to figure out whether or not the Giants

are going to be useful idiots in this draft

and help the Patriots out by passing on either Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter if either of

them are there. Go ahead. Have you Shador Sanders. Any shot of that? We'll get to the bottom

of that. And then after that, we're going to talk to a melange of Patriots media members.

I buttonhole them after Mike Drable's

availability earlier this week and said, just tell me simply, what will the Patriots do at

number four? What should they do at number four? A lot of people are going chalk. I'll tell you that

right now. But there's some fun and interesting ideas for what they should do.

So, I'm bringing Dan in just a second.

Ladies and gentlemen, as advertised, here he is, Dan Duggan from The Athletic.

He's covering the Giants.

How long have you been doing this now with the Giants?

2016, like you kind of aging dog years on this beat, but yeah, it's been a while now.

You didn't see any of the glory years at all, did you? You've seen nothing in terms of glory

years there. No, I think they have like the third worst record in the NFL since I came on the

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