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The Documentary Podcast

She2He2She

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Nele and Ellie are detransitioners too. In their early 20s, they were brought up as girls, and began to identify as transmen in their teens. To present as more masculine, both took testosterone and had their breasts removed in double mastectomy surgery. Connecting online, these two young women are now supporting each other to re-identify as female.

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0:00.0

OK, here we have had a problem with you.

0:02.1

13 minutes to the moon, season two.

0:04.8

I was thinking that we were going to survive.

0:07.2

Episode one, available now.

0:11.4

We're delighted you've downloaded this edition of the documentary.

0:14.6

I'm Linda Pressley, and what you're about to hear

0:16.9

is the final program in the D-Transitioners series.

0:20.9

Stay tuned for stories from the gender front line.

0:23.9

One thing that I feel a bit sad about is my voice,

0:32.9

then I lost that we'll never come back.

0:34.6

And I used to love singing, and I can't sing anymore.

0:38.4

Like, my voice is just very monochrome.

0:40.5

I can't really.

0:41.8

Does it sound very different your voice now?

0:44.0

Yes, yes.

0:44.9

Like, when I call someone, I get gendered as hair, like as male.

0:50.9

That voice probably sounds male to you, too.

0:53.9

And for a time, Nila lived as a man in her native Germany.

0:57.7

But six months ago, she stopped taking testosterone

1:00.4

and began to D-Transition.

1:02.8

We don't know how many formerly trans people returned

1:05.6

to the gender they were assigned at birth.

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