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Off Air with Jane & Fi

She-Wees and Duchy Urinals (with Nancy Birtwhistle)

Off Air with Jane & Fi

The Times

Conversation, Relationships, Fi Glover, News, Women, Community, Chat, Entertainment News, Society & Culture, The Times, Jane Garvey, Times Radio, Entertainment

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

A miscommunication in today's episode results in a gassy greyhound being confused for one of the nation's bestselling authors. Meanwhile, Jane and Fi brainstorm their own future chart-topper... a manual dedicated entirely to decision making.


Plus, Fi speaks to author and Bake Off winner, Nancy Birtwhistle, about her new book 'Clean Magic'.


Our next book club pick is 'A Town Like Alice' by Nevil Shute.


Our most asked about book is called 'The Later Years' by Peter Thornton.


You can listen to our 'I'm in the cupboard on Christmas' playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1awQioX5y4fxhTAK8ZPhwQ


If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: janeandfi@times.radio


Follow us on Instagram! @janeandfi


Podcast Producers: Hannah Quinn and Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler


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Transcript

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0:00.0

We were just looking at all of the delivery drivers and the Uber drivers

0:11.0

weaving in and out of the traffic, and that's most of the traffic in central London these days.

0:18.0

We were in one of those vehicles.

0:20.0

And we were trying to work out what happens when

0:22.2

AI takes those jobs, because already some of those food delivery people have got robots.

0:28.9

So where my son's at university, they have robots that travel along the pavement delivering food.

0:34.6

Like drones? Yes, but little robots.

0:38.1

Like little dustbins, which have all the food in.

0:40.8

They're incredibly heavy and they're constantly tracked and they've got superb alarm systems

0:45.8

so they can't really be tampered with.

0:48.0

But he was saying, you know, if you're in the way, this little voice comes along and says,

0:52.9

please, could you move out of the way I am delivering?

0:55.8

Or words to that effect.

0:57.5

So an awful lot of those delivery drivers will go,

1:00.1

and the driverless car is coming to a city centre near you as well.

1:04.5

So, you know, what jobs do all of those people then get?

1:08.4

And if you look back through all of the previous revolutions, industrial

1:12.2

revolutions, agricultural revolutions, where did those people go? So that's what we were

1:17.4

trying to do. So let's say you had 10 people working on a farm in the 17th century and when

1:24.3

a form of automation came along so it wasn't just the horse and the plough,

1:28.4

and my dates won't be particularly good on this.

1:31.5

And let's say a plough did the work of ten men.

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