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Big Technology Podcast

She Wants AI To Help You Thrive, Not Just Keep You Company — Y-Lan Boureau

Big Technology Podcast

Alex Kantrowitz

Technology, Religion & Spirituality, Business News, Business, Religion, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Entrepreneurship, Management, Marketing, Politics, News Commentary, Government, Investing, Tech News, Social Sciences, News

4.6395 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Y-Lan Boureau is the founder & CEO of ThrivePal, an OpenAI-funded AI startup, and a former Meta AI researcher. Boureau joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss why the next frontier for AI should be science‑backed coaching that nudges us toward healthier habits and deeper real‑world relationships. Tune in to hear how large‑language models can push users to lift weights, regulate emotions, and support their friends’ growth. --- --- Enjoying Big Technology Podcast? Please rate us five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcast app of choice. Want a discount for Big Technology on Substack? Here’s 25% off for the first year: https://www.bigtechnology.com/subscribe?coupon=0843016b Questions? Feedback? Write to: [email protected]

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0:00.0

Is the AI industry's obsession with companionship and therapy misguided?

0:06.0

And should artificial intelligence products really be about something else, be about thriving?

0:11.0

We're joined today by a brilliant artificial intelligence researcher and founder and CEO,

0:17.0

Elon Borough, who is the founder and CEO of ThrivePel, joining us here in studio.

0:22.2

Elon, great to see you.

0:22.9

Welcome to the show.

0:23.8

I'm so happy to be here.

0:25.4

Let me tell everybody where we met because there's an interesting story.

0:28.6

A long time ago.

0:29.6

Right.

0:30.6

And you have very fascinating perspectives on where things are heading in AI and where they should be heading.

0:35.6

And that was also the case about a decade ago when we met

0:38.8

when you were at what was then Facebook researching whether if you could have AI basically go

0:45.9

in the comments and take a heated conversation, inject some facts, and maybe diffuse some of the

0:52.8

polarization we were seeing in society.

0:55.2

So talk a little bit about that experiment and then give us your perspective on what happened there.

1:00.5

So for me, working on AI has always been about helping people live better lives.

1:07.4

And so at the time, I was like, I think back in 2015 or 2014, I don't remember exactly,

1:12.6

but I joined, I started talking about joining Facebook in 2014.

1:16.7

And I joined 2015, so probably 2015 or 2016.

1:20.0

But at the time, one problem that I thought was something that was making a lot of people

1:24.1

unhappy in their interaction online was how they were always fighting about stuff.

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