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The Owen Jones Podcast

She Smeared Gaza Protests - And I Took Her On. Just Watch 😱

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.4 β€’ 1.4K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 6 May 2026

⏱️ 18 minutes

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0:00.0

Wow. Just wow. The government is threatening to ban protests against Israel's genocide.

0:06.0

I went on LBC to oppose this. And among other things, my opponent argued that the Economist magazine is part of the Hamas propaganda machine.

0:16.6

Yeah, that's right. That's the right-wing publication which supported Israel's

0:21.0

genocidal onslaught against Gaza. That's what we're dealing with here. My opponent was Natasha

0:26.8

Hausdorff, who's legal director of UK lawyers for Israel. You can obviously get the gist of what

0:32.2

they do. I'm going to include the whole debate, which starts with her speaking at some length.

0:37.8

Please do you persist in listening.

0:39.2

Sasha, can I just start with you?

0:40.8

What do you say to the argument that although, of course, some appalling things are said on these marches,

0:47.4

and it is not uncommon to hear appalling things said on marches, it would be an infringement

0:52.2

on our rights to protest too grave to prohibit them.

0:56.9

Well, I disagree. And of course, at the centre of this is a balancing act, but it's one that

1:01.6

has been pretty controversial since these marches, and I would call them hate marches for reasons

1:06.9

I'd be happy to explain, since they began over two and a half years ago. I remember

1:11.7

actually being in a panel with Lord Ken McDonald and Sir John, forgive me, Jonathan Hall,

1:16.9

Casey, the independent review of counter terror legislation already in November 2023, if you can

1:23.8

cast your mind back to that time. And the general consensus, I have to say,

1:28.2

on the panel is that the police weren't doing enough. I certainly have not accepted

1:32.7

throughout this period that there were simply insufficient powers. I know we've heard

1:37.0

from police commissioners all over the country complaining that they need to be given

1:43.6

more powers

1:44.6

by legislation in Parliament.

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