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🗓️ 6 January 2025
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Megan Garcia thought her son was playing video games. In reality, the 14-year-old was in an abusive, sexual relationship with an AI chatbot. Eventually, at the bot’s encouragement, he took his own life.
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0:00.0 | All right, this podcast discusses suicide. |
0:03.4 | So if you or someone you know struggling, help is available. |
0:06.7 | Just call the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline at 988. |
0:11.0 | All right. |
0:11.7 | Today we're speaking with Megan Garcia. |
0:14.1 | Just a really sad story. |
0:15.7 | A mom whose life changed forever in February of 2024 when her 14-year-old son, Sewell Setzler the third, |
0:23.9 | died by suicide. Megan believes that an AI chatbot by the name of Character.A.I. encouraged |
0:30.3 | him to actually do it. In the months leading up to his passing, Megan noticed that her son just |
0:37.3 | wasn't quite himself. |
0:38.9 | He was a kid who would play basketball and any other sports, soccer, you name it, a love tech. |
0:45.3 | And then suddenly he became distant and withdrawn. |
0:47.7 | And he was hanging out in his room a lot. |
0:50.7 | And after his death, police found Sewell's phone on the bathroom floor. |
0:55.3 | Just moments before taking his life, he sent the chatbot on this character.a.ai app and website where it's available there too. |
1:03.3 | What if I told you that I could come home right now? |
1:07.0 | What if I told you I could come home right this minute? |
1:10.7 | The bot's response, please do, sweet king. |
1:14.5 | Yeah. Megan didn't know that Sewell was interacting with this chatbot until she actually went through his phone and saw all these devastating messages. |
1:22.4 | And looking back, she says, you know, there are some changes in his personality, but she did seek help with |
1:28.1 | these changes. I mean, she talked to him. He went to a therapist. She tried to get a tutor to help him |
1:34.9 | with his grades because his grades were actually falling too. Now, Megan is suing character.a.I. |
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