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Kenzie is with us in Tacoma, Washington.

Hi, Kenzie.

How are you?

Hi, how are you?

Better than I deserve.

How can we help?

So, okay, so I've been, my husband and I have been on your plan off and on, but we are, we've paid off all our debt

at one point and then I was stupid, got back into it, but we're like scorched earth, you know,

really, really on this plan to get out of debt.

And one of the driving forces is we want to cash flow our kids college.

Well, and this is like the perfect day listening to all of these kids having or adults having to

pay for college again, all their stuff. Anyways, I have told my kids, I have a 21, 19, and a 17-year-old girls,

and I've told them since they were in middle school, we will pay for college, but you have to

live at home. And you have to go to a school that we approve of. You have to have good grades,

but we will cash flow your school. We're not doing that. We have been

very transparent about the struggle we've had with debt, the night, you know, the sleep that we

lost, everything like that. I did the same thing. I did the same thing except the live at home part.

Why do you, why do you add that? You have to live at home. Because if you,

I don't pay for other people's rent. So there, where I live, there are so many colleges within

20 minutes of our home that there is no reason for you to not live at home.

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